It has been a long time since I have written anything here on my astrology blog. I want to talk here about why.
I wrote a long post last month, analyzing the general astrology for 2022 using the Capricorn and Aries ingresses, and an eclipse that falls right around the US election in November. I sat on it for over a month, and I’ve decided I don’t want to publish it, for a couple of reasons.
One, what I am seeing in the astrology for the year is quite turbulent and dark.
And two, at this point, I don’t see any way that I, or anyone else, can dis-entangle general political views and opinions from the astrology I do, especially in our highly polarized world. I now think that is inevitable. I want to give a couple of instances here.
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Consider astrology during the era of William Lilly. You effectively had two camps of astrologers, depending on how they lined up politically in their attitude to the monarchy. Each side predictably interpreted the astrology as supporting their political side. Same stars, opposite interpretations. Which is the “true” astrology?
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I looked at some predictive presentations by other astrologers about world events, and I want to talk about my reaction.
With one, I looked at a prediction of upcoming events for the year by a skilled astrologer – but, I looked at a recording made in late 2020 talking about 2021. I wanted to see how the presentation looked after the fact.
The astrologer was extremely skilled technically, and knew how to pull major configurations out – that aspect of the presentation was a joy to watch. Some of the predictions were on in a general sort of way, but some were extremely wrong, and the ones that were accurate were general enough that they could have been fulfilled in any of a great number of ways.
That astrologer also made the comment that she was aware of political bias, but because of a certain configuration in her chart she could stand above that – and from my perspective there were parts of her presentation that were just straight political cliche, and I could tell exactly where she stood politically – and for some strange reason her predictions supported her bias, especially in regard to a Certain Person who People React Emotionally To Very Strongly.
I am now convinced that the level of political bias in an astrologer’s work is in inverse proportion to their awareness of that bias.
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There were another couple of astrologers whose presentations I viewed, who again were very skilled technically – but, after there presentations, I realized I could not bring to mind any single specific prediction they had made. Everything was general enough that I couldn’t pin it down.
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I heard of a specific interpretation, or rather a pair of interpretations, that happened in a group discussion of an astrologer friend of mine.
This was in a discussion about Mercury in the 12th house of the chart of Donald Trump. To one of the group members it was blatantly obvious that this had to refer to the conspiracy plotting Trump must have done relative to the January 6 incident. To another person in the group it was equally blatantly obvious that this referred to the numerous documented conspiracies against Trump that took place during his entire time in office.
Both are astrologically perfectly valid as interpretations of that configuration. Which one you see in the chart is completely a function of your political stance.
With my readers here, it is probably perfectly obvious to you that one of those interpretations is plain fact, as plain as the mask on your face, and the other is just plain misinformed.
So which is the “correct” interpretation?
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I think you get the idea.
Summing up, I decided not to post my thoughts on the outlook for the year, basically because the astrology just confirmed what I was thinking and perceiving without it. I think the astrology did help me to clarify my thoughts and focus things, but it really didn’t change any ideas I had.
I figured out that I could write about what I was seeing just as effectively without having to mention astrology at all. If I would say the same things without the astrology – if the astrology really did not make a significant difference in what I wrote – then what exactly did the astrology add?
So for this very big reason – and for some other personal reasons – I decided I need to back off and get some perspective on working with astrology going forward.
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I want to end this post with a three card reading I did with the Marseille Tarot. It is very compact and vivid, and it neatly sums up the kinds of things I see when I look at the astrology for the upcoming period.
The Fool – The Tower – The Chariot.
We are stumbling blindly into a period where things are falling apart all around us. Our challenge is to figure out how to navigate those changes.
This is a good time to be humble and flexible – to be ready to change course quickly – to be ready to adapt to unforeseen situations – and perhaps most importantly, to be able to admit when you are wrong and making a mistake, and need to change course.
Godspeed.
Charlie,
I agree completely.
Thank you for all you have taught and shared with me.
Blessings,
Rita
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I value your writings and teachings very much – I completely understand why you want to distance yourself from mundane astrology though! Thankyou for sharing your work and insights so generously.
Lovely article, thank you Charlie!
I had a thought regarding the 12th house Mercury of that “Certain Person To Whom People React Emotionally Very Strongly”…
Why can’t both of the interpretations that you mentioned be true? Why does it always have to be a zero sum thing? Especially in the specific instance that you mentioned. Or perhaps that was your point…
As always, astrology is a multifaceted thing that works on more than one level.
That being said, I wholeheartedly agree with your points on political bias.
All the best – Rhys
You make a good point – the symbols of astrology are multivalent, and can mean multiple things, even in the context of a single reading.
The longer I study, the less I feel I know.
I’ve begun to view astrology as a vehicle in which the practitioner is sorting through concepts to awaken clairvoyance.
It seems medieval astrologers were able to glean considerably more with just the seven planets and no trimmings than all our experts today.
I like your site Mr. Obert.
Trump’s natal Mercury in Cancer on the 12th house (whole sign), I would think, certainly could say something about his relationship with the media (Mercury), high emotions (Cancer/cardinal water/ruled by a full Moon in Sag on the 5th) and secret enemies (12th). Seems pretty unambiguous to me. But I definitely see how ideological biases would inform our delineations. Absolutely. Great article. Thanks!
Very interesting articule which raises a question – what about a reading of a Natal chart?
In your books you give many examples of maps of celebrities whose lives are well known.
What about a map of a person you néver heard about? I would love tô see an example óf such
an interpretation.
I guess through astrology we can see certain archetypal energies at play. But what are we going to do with that? it is completely up to us.
My opinion is that a completely new age and era in humanity is unfolding, that’s probably the reason why most astrologers can’t see beyond that. After all we are the outcome of the culture we live in and that culture shapes us in the same way that our natal chart shapes us.
Basically we are a mix of our natal chart, culture, family, society etc.. Human beings are very complex creatures.
That’s why I would not rely on any astrologer to predict future events, especially now. From my point of view this is not even about society, politics, finances or pandemics. What we are seeing now is literally a war on consciousness and humanity. Our ability to raise our level of understanding and see the truth of what’s unfolding in front us will play a major role in defining the future society of planet earth.
It’s time to build our vision together but for that we’ll need understanding, an open mind, and willingness to change ourselves on a deep and personal level.
The end of materialism is coming, and like any other nasty disease, the healing will be long and unpleasant, but very necessary.
would you not like to write something on your current view on astrology?
thank you and best regards,
Karl.
This post you just read is my current view on astrology.
I just now came upon your Grand Conjunction 2020 video, and wow! how incredibly precise. Yes of course astrologers are biased, and yet at the end of the day, perhaps many differing predictions are accurate. We know when looking at a chart that there are infinite possibilities! Anyhow, I do hope you continue to write, and teach from your matter-of-fact viewpoint :)
What mercury in the 12th- which Carl Payne Tobey found is that Virgo is ruled by Mercury 6th house is ruled measured by Neptune Picses and his reasons for believing this change is correct. http://www.bonniehill.net/pages.aux/astrology/tobey/tobey.21.html too can modify or enhance. See signs house rulers correctly placed,etc.Transits and aspects all can tell what it means as we know.
So the aspects correctly placed signs in their houses will help in what it means. Just sharing your Teacher is good.